Mike Wittmer

grand trip

I just returned from a week of rafting through the Grand Canyon with about 30 other men. I made and was inspired by some new friends, and I learned a lot about the canyon and the two main theories on how it was formed (by the Flood or by millions of years of the little Colorado flowing uphill and making a sharp turn to the right, then left, then back again, all the while eroding the walls one pebble at a time). I’ll post more on this later, when I have time to process my thoughts.

It was great to be in the canyon, with men who had to talk to me because really, what else was there to do? We couldn’t tweet, email, or even check our watches. We had no idea what was happening in the outside world. For all we knew, the NFL, NBA, and the government in Minnesota were all on strike (two out of three ain’t bad). It wasn’t until Saturday that I learned that Betty Ford had died and been buried and that many dignitaries had visited and then departed my town. So I went through an entire week with no contact with the outside world and didn’t miss very much (except my wife and kids, but we’re all better now).

One of my new friends, Jim Hamilton, persuaded me to try Twitter. He is my only follower so far, but if you want to follow me and learn what I’m eating for each meal (isn’t that what they do on Twitter?), you can find me @MikeWittmer.

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9 responses to “grand trip”

  1. Gary

    Just remember, “All that twitters, is not gold.”

  2. Jody Harris

    “…I learned a lot about the canyon and the two main theories on how it was formed (by the Flood or by millions of years of the little Colorado flowing uphill and making a sharp turn to the right, then left, then back again, all the while eroding the walls one pebble at a time).”

    Making a choice between two lies is always a bad place to start.

    You know your theory is in trouble with you set up a straw man to knock down in order to make your theory look better.

    Here’s a honest (and Christian creationist) explanation of how the GC was formed over time.

  3. mikewittmer

    Jody:

    I wasn’t aware of a third option, and you didn’t supply the link. I would be happy to look into it. My sense is that there are problems with every theory, and it doesn’t help to call them “lies,” as this implies intent to deceive. My description of the conventional view is what the secular scientists claim, so it’s not a straw man. Anyway, I would like to investigate your third option.

  4. Jody Harris

    Ah, sorry. I got distracted before I got that post….

    Here’s a honest (and Christian creationist) explanation of how the GC was formed over time: http://www.reasons.org/grand-canyon-formed-over-millions-years

  5. mikewittmer

    Jody:

    This view is essentially the view I presented above, so I don’t see how it is a third option. I do like Ross’ honesty, admitting that there are many canyons that must yet be studied. One unmistakeable takeaway from spending a week in the GC is that scientists are only beginning to scratch the surface of what is there. And there is plenty of evidence to support both theories, and plenty of problems/unresolved questions for each.

  6. Jody Harris

    “little Colorado flowing uphill and making a sharp turn to the right, then left, then back again, all the while eroding the walls one pebble at a time,” is hardly an accurate description of geology. It’s clearly a straw-man presentation.

    At least I have the respect to present an honest description of young-earth creationist models.

  7. mikewittmer

    I’m sorry if this sounds like a straw man, but it’s actually what the conventional view said occurred. I was there, and saw the topography first hand. We’ll probably just have to disagree about this.

  8. Jody Harris

    Perhaps you misunderstood. I’m pretty sure “the conventional view” didn’t speculate about water flowing uphill and making (spontaneous, self-directing) course changes.

    I’m not going to try to convince you of an old-earth creationists view, but I do think it is very important to not dismiss other view points based on not understanding the other views.

  9. Jonathan

    Came across this today and thought you would enjoy the video

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